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"Add tasting note" problems

WhiskyNotes
Expert Senior Senior Expert
Posted on 04-08-2011 at 08:19 am

- Encoding issues: problems with apostrophes (the rounded onces), "there`s" is okay but "thereâ€

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WhiskyNotes
Expert Senior Senior Expert
Posted on 04-08-2011 at 08:22 am


Okay so I have the same problems here...

- Encoding issues: a straight apostrophe ` is fine but the rounded version (single quote) gets broken. Everything that comes after it is deleted. The same happens if you use a long dash. Maybe other (relatively common) characters as well.

- When you edit a note, the colour resets to "clear gin".

- I can`t seem to select text with my mouse. Works fine if you use the keyboard arrows (IE9).

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WhiskyNotes
Expert Senior Senior Expert
Posted on 04-08-2011 at 08:30 am

I saw they`ve mentioned the cut-off problem here as well: http://www.whiskybase.com/forum.php?g=3&p=45 Could be the same as my problem n

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WhiskyNotes
Expert Senior Senior Expert
Posted on 04-08-2011 at 08:30 am

Right so you can`t use a number circle ("masculine ordinal") either...
The same as my problem no. 1

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alectron
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 04-08-2011 at 08:33 am

Nice analytical run right here.
I`m still trying to figure out what causes the cut-off notes after editing, but haven`t seen a pattern in it yet apart from the fact that it usually happens to me when editing notes and rarely when submitting one for the first time...
c.

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WhiskyNotes
Expert Senior Senior Expert
Posted on 04-08-2011 at 10:49 am

Trying to insert 25 special characters, all found on a regular (Belgian) keyboard:

&éà"`(§è!çà)-|@#

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WhiskyNotes
Expert Senior Senior Expert
Posted on 04-08-2011 at 10:51 am


&éà"`(§è!çà)-|@#_*$£%+=/

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WhiskyNotes
Expert Senior Senior Expert
Posted on 04-08-2011 at 10:51 am

Only the ordinal sign didn`t work.

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alectron
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 23-08-2011 at 12:25 pm

Hi.
Editing a note afterwards still reliably deletes/swallows part of the tasting-note on around 30-50% of the occasions when editing a note afterwards.
As much as I like to contribute to the whiskybase, this is really frustrating and I find myself writing notes just for myself locally & don`t bother putting them up here anymore more with this bug being as persistent as it apparently is...
Any chance that this could be looked into and raised in the bug-fix-priority-list now that we have 3 forum threads
http://www.whiskybase.com/forum.php?g=3&p=189
http://www.whiskybase.com/forum.php?g=3&p=51
http://www.whiskybase.com/forum.php?g=3&p=45
dedicated to this one bug ??

Cheerio.
c.

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WhiskyNotes
Expert Senior Senior Expert
Posted on 09-11-2011 at 08:21 am

Sad to see nothing has been done to solve this problem! Really frustrating.

 

Try to insert a euro sign, rounded quotes or ordinal sign: everything after that gets broken.
Try to edit an existing tasting note: colour is set to gin clear.

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alectron
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 09-11-2011 at 08:56 am

Yep, I feel the same.
The frustration that is and this has been bothering me over the last months - it would have been great, in case there simply are no resources to fix these bugs (and this has been flagged for +6 months by different people now), which might well be the case seeing whiskybase is a free community platform and only driven by 1 programmer as far as I know, to at least give some sort of feedback to the community as well that tries to contribute and help.
I for my part have stopped adding tasting notes to the whiskybase due to the bugs above, and have piled up quite a few; but, since there is no bugfix in sight for the next few months either, I might have to start looking for alternatives.
c.

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magic_slim
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 09-11-2011 at 16:47 pm

I usually edit my tasting notes, because I taste each whisky on 2 different days to write a tasting note. I never experienced any problems except for the `"gin clear" issue, which I am aware of, so that I add the correct color again, before I start editing my tasting note. Nothing dramatic, which could prevent me from writing tasting notes.

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alectron
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 09-11-2011 at 21:29 pm

Yep, editing is necessary as I tend to try the same whisky under different circumstances as well, but for me, about every 2nd to third attempt to edit a Tasting Note results in the note getting crippled, and I can clearly say it`s not due to the special character bug that Ruben mentions above as it happens at different places of the same note... and I just got fed up when I had a few Tasting Notes within a few days that I had to correct +3 times just to get it uploaded to the base without it missing parts.
As for your way to edit a note - do you edit the note as is or do you switch to HTML mode as well ? I tend to switch the field I`m about to edit over to HTML, so I might have a random mixture of Text-Editor & HTML fields when submitting the notes, which might be a contributing factor...
I might do another test run or give standard notes a try instead of tasting notes and see if they give me similar grief.
c.

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markjedi1
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 10-11-2011 at 08:41 am


I`ve experienced the same problem with similar characters and it is indeed a bit annoying. But once you know what to look for, you can anticipate a little. I write my tasting notes in word first and then copy/paste them, but I usually still have to make two to three corrections (and must not forget to change the color every time), before the note appears as planned. Having said that, it will not keep me from sharing my notes, but it would be nice if it could be helped.

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TDMartijn
Expert Senior Senior Expert
Posted on 12-02-2013 at 08:59 am

Quote by magic_slim

I usually edit my tasting notes, because I taste each whisky on 2 different days to write a tasting note. I never experienced any problems except for the `"gin clear" issue, which I am aware of, so that I add the correct color again, before I start editing my tasting note. Nothing dramatic, which could prevent me from writing tasting notes.




The "gin clear" issue still exists (12-02-2013). Not a drama but a little annoying.
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Master Quill
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 12-02-2013 at 10:33 am

Same problem here, but I also don`t like the non response. When I feel I have to punish myself for something, I add a tasting note, that`ll keep you busy for a while. But I`ve stopped to post ideas, since nobody seems to care, or so it seems. Still I like WB a lot. I guess all the work goes into the shop...

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Bachess
Administrator Administrator
Posted on 13-02-2013 at 13:49 pm

That`s not very nice Master Quill.
We are still working hard on the (by my opinion small problems) whiskybase issues. You dont like the non-respons ??
I had also a lot of respons on the fix of the logout problem here :
http://www.whiskybase.com/forum.php?g=3&p=570

But ok, please stop posting ideas Master Quill


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alectron
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 13-02-2013 at 20:54 pm

Hm. This seems to be a case of sounding more harsh online in writing than it`s meant to be on both accounts...

Anyway, as for the case in point, I too have/had the impression that WB development has come to a halt over the last 2 years.
This thread being a perfect example for a `small` problem that`s been there for 2 years without ever being acknowledged by the WB team (look above - Menno`s post is the first in this thread of the team, and even that doesn`t acknowledge the issue of a buggy text editor, which if certain content is posted inside it, can take down whole pages... look here for some examples: http://www.whiskybase.com/forum.php?g=3&p=145 ).

Same for the photo upload issues, which is a good example why people get fed up with trying to support and contribute to WB, cos there is a very silent majority that just gave up and uses WB just as a log for their bottles and ratings if at all, which I am slowly passing over to as well.
To elaborate, I`ve heard of 10+ people, who have vast collections and knowledge who just can`t be arsed to jump through the hoops that are necessary to add a bottle, ifno & a picture to WB, and then wait months for the photo upload to become available again.
http://www.whiskybase.com/forum.php?g=4&p=56
The above thread perfectly illustrates the issue of the `non-responses` that Master Quill mentioned - there is a photo thread with 15-20 members offering help to get rid of the back-log which is a problem for the community, and at least publicly (might be the team sent PMs to some), this is not acknowledged or commented at all by the whiskybase team, although the community clearly has an issue with it...
On a broader scale and since I have the impression as well that most threads remain unanswered, this obviously can become frustrating and usually results in slight anger first, and in withdrawal soon after.
0.02 cents.
c.

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Master Quill
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 13-02-2013 at 23:28 pm

I`m sorry Menno is taking it the wrong way. I will refrain from further comment, beacuase I really don`t want to go there. Alectron is hitting the nail on the head, and absolutely better with words than I am. 


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Bachess
Administrator Administrator
Posted on 14-02-2013 at 10:44 am

@Master Quill: sorry, my reaction was too harsh.

@alectron: I`m sorry to hear you feel this way about the community. The team is working hard on the community. We expect to have 40.000 bottles on the wall soon and the community is still growing fast with whisky-enthusiasts.

Greetz,
Menno

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peathead
Expert Senior Senior Expert
Posted on 14-02-2013 at 23:40 pm

This is getting a bit off topic, but I think (and not just me) that you and your WB team are doing a great job, Menno!!  I`m sure you`re doing the best you can to improve the base and everything with it.

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