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Overall rating
93.45/100
votes
157
Category
Single Malt
Distillery
Bottler
Malts of Scotland (MoS)
Bottling serie
Diamonds
Vintage
1982
Bottled
2016
Casktype
Sherry Hogshead
Casknumber
MoS 16017
Number of bottles
225
Strength
56.8 % Vol.
Size
50 ml 700 ml
Added on
23 Apr 2016 9:24 am by GlenPiWi
UncoloredNon-chillfilteredCask StrengthSingle Cask Whisky

Average value

€ 1.579,88

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157 × member ratings

125 × in collection

Whisky Reviews for Port Ellen 1982 MoS

16 users have left a review for this whisky and scored it an average of 93.45 points

  1. didi1893 scored this whisky 98 points Connoisseur

    Wow, what a cool drop! This finely fruity smoke flavor and the extremely spicy and sweet wood is amazing. My first port Ellen and just such a grenade. Maybe I'm just a bit blinded by the myth of Port Ellen and the price of the sample, but this sample was definitely one of the best samples I've ever had in my glass. Whether the price for this bottling is justified, I can judge poorly. In any case it was worth it! I'm excited!
    • Nose
      Oily and cumbersome, the drops run back into the glass after being panned. Deep dark amber with a wonderful reddish shine shimmers out of the glass. Long streaks stick to the glass wall.
      A wonderful smoky sherry aroma rises from the glass. A touch of sea air with a pinch of salt mixes with the sweet and fruity smoke. Some mandarin flavor and sweet berries push through the fine smoke. A subtle peat note plays with some ash and bitumen. A hint of tobacco and tar mixes with a light leather note. Again and again, the fruity sherry is in the foreground. Now fresh raisins and dates are added. The nose is extremely complex. The alcohol is harmoniously integrated, the fine smoke plays with the sweet fruit and the tobacco. Fine wood flavors are noticeable.
    • Taste
      Dry and extremely spicy woody aroma sets over the tongue at the first sip. The second sip is wonderfully creamy, fine smoke and fine tobacco notes are pushing forward. A hint of dark but sweet fruit battles through the fine smoky notes. The spicy wood is extremely tasty. Fine tart aromas spring from the wood. A pleasant tobacco aroma and cold smoke mixes with subtle leather notes. A touch of licorice and a barely noticeable salt note complete the wonderfully spicy and slightly sweet wood aroma. The Port Ellen definitely needs no water and with its 56.8% the optimal drinking strength.
    • Finish
      The wonderful sweet smoke and tobacco note of the taste is reflected in the finish again. The Port Ellen leaves a wonderful creamy mouthfeel. A fine nut aroma arises from the fine and spicy wood aroma. Again cold smoke with a hint of leather. The fruity and sweet sherry aroma can also be found in the finish. The finish is as complex as the nose and the taste. A fruity, creamy woody aroma with a wonderful smoky note and a subtle hazelnut aroma will long be remembered.

  2. mothers_finest scored this whisky 90 points Expert Senior

    A good whisky! For real! But the price is a joke, since I was already able to taste so good things for 150 ¬ ... At least I'm smarter about the realization that if some here in this whisky see the perfect dram, I do not have to test 1000 more pieces to end in nirvana.
    In that sense - just close your eyes, ignore the label, listen to your taste buds and you will understand just because something is more expensive; is not it necessarily better ...
    And gladly again - YES - a good smoker in the sherry barrel! 90 points for this ...

  3. ASWhisky scored this whisky 95 points Connoisseur

    Wow a hit for PE lovers
    the plump life
    full of surprises
    sometimes sweet and sometimes harsh
    sometimes it smokes and sometimes it is soft
    a real port Ellen
    I was worried about the color, the barrel would have killed the character, but no, a perfect symbiosis Ranking: 1.Nase and mouth, 2nd exit

    Yes, I'm in heaven
    • Nose
      first grin after pouring: cowshed Now comes the Port Ellen
      nice smoke and many crazy notes
      smoke
      rubber
      salt
      stale harbor basin
      floral note - lilies
      cold burnt wood
      the old damp, musty cask now comes good ethereal notes, frankincense some nutmeg
      the change I feel is: mystical, cold, smoky, crypt against warm, floral, heavy, sweet with a spicy, ethereal note _________________________________________ I hang on the lilies in the church with incense cool wood ash and burnt rubber Sweetness like cherries and honey the intense old wood smell like dusty, paint, the old wood of pews cold smoke and fiery smoke
    • Taste
      mmh a great start
      soft and prickly
      Cherry compote with chocolate creamy soft
      becomes embers
      hot and spicy it melts on your tongue
      gets very sweet with a tart note and dry chocolate powder
      Ivy leaves caramelized in sugar
      sweet and sour gives the charm
      to the valuable old smoke & ash note
      as a sub-grade liquid sweet gum
      or rather sweet beeswax
      ________________________________________________ a collapsed church wall
      the jungle is already overgrowing
      it exudes spicy moist floral notes
      heavy in the cool church air
      You sit down on the dusty pews
      charred wooden beams protrude from the old walls against the sky
      somebody set fire to beeswax candles here
      incense
      You feel a moment like in a dusty cool death cry
      then you feel that nature is conquering this space
      You can feel it warm and spicy
      a girl with an armful of lilies walks past you
      The fragrance is stunning and mystical
      Like yellow honey, a ray of sunshine flows across the ground
      as if he wanted to show her the way through the dark walls
      You smile, life is sweet and beautiful
      yes sure it can be too harsh
      it is probably this change
    • Finish
      long
      moist and very sweet like caramelized
      now and then he smokes harshly between the sweetness
      the beautiful finish could have been more intense with a Port Ellen

  4. Caoldronach scored this whisky 91 points Expert Senior

    ... some personal considerations and opinions regarding "High-End Whisky" (with respect to price and rates):

    I believe that the rating at "whiskybase.com" is quite an adequate guide for a first orientation before buying a test bottle. My strategy, if a sample is unavailable (in most cases, unfortunately), is to select a distillery whose profile I like anyway, then taking an average from ratings from whiskybase as well as from other reviewers whose taste fit well to mine in the past. Further very important is to read thoroughly the detailed notes of all reviewers to learn about the specific profile of the whisky.

    At "whiskybase.com", the rating seems to fit quite well in maybe 80% of the cases if a certain minimum of votes is already available (should be at least 20-30 votes, the more the better). This does not sound self-evident because every whiskybase member can define his/her scheme to award a whisky quite individually. So for instance everyone sets another personal "standard" for a certain value for a perceived quality (whatever quality means to the member, it can be just the personal liking or the trial to rate some "neutral" properties), everyone spreads his personal scale in a different way, i.e. one member may use a wide scale between 50 and 100, another may use only a very narrow scale between 75 and 90. This leads to different statistical distributions with varying mean values and standard deviations (variances) being superimposed. From this it seems to be difficult to maintain a kind of normative result. However, practical experience shows that within a certain region (typically at least between 80 and 90 points) it works quite well. This is at least my personal feeling. The reason for this might be some statistical compensation of the outliers if a certain minimum number of votes contributes to the end result or some "swarm intelligence" where all members subliminally adapt a certain rating behaviour with more or less the same statistical mean and variance. 

    So, to a certain degree it seems to work. But I recognized (again my personal observation, only, of course) that this is only true for the range between 80 and 90 points. Especially when it comes to rates above 90 points, it seems that maybe expectation of something very special leads to exaggerated and not realistic verdicts. Maybe again a "swarm intelligence" effect (following trends), however this time counterproductive. For instance there might be a famous name or charismatic distillery, there might be a "lost distillery" like, e.g. Port Ellen or Brora, there might be a very old age (e.g. 40 y.o.), there might be the feeling "everything used to be better in the past" for whiskies bottled in the last century, there might be top (but still personal!) verdicts from renowned whisky gurus, there might be already a lot of good ratings to follow blindly, or there might be simply - for whatever reason - a high market price ("an expensive thing cannot be bad.") etc., etc. ...

    This seems to induce some mysterious expectation leading to the rates above 90 points. I have tasted whiskies at 92, 93, 94 points, and yes, they were different than whiskies at 88, 89, 90 points. But were they better? My clear answer is 'No'. Not in general, maybe not even in average. I feel a clear quality slope between whiskies between 85 and 90, much, much more between 80 and 90, and an extremely strong slope between 75 and 90. But in the top range between 89 and 95 for me it seems more to be based on expectation and imagination.

    The whiskies with >89 points are excellent in most cases, and having this excellence up one's sleeve the charismatic variety and individualism is quite high within this quality group. So we find a lot of different individual characters, but on par with each other if it comes to intrinsic quality. So, my impression is that within this high quality domain it is no longer sensible to compare these individuals by a pure number "xxx/100". Individual tasting notes, however, are still quite helpful to learn about the specific profile.

    But even with the detailed descriptions of nosing and tasting one should stay careful. If you read and compare notes from different people, especially if they did not publish them at the same review site (where people first read and then write), the details can differ quite a lot. The associations arising from smell and taste can be quite different when it comes to a detailed description based on reference flavours, such as from different fruit, chocolate, coffee, herbs, and so on. The same phenomenon is known from, e.g., wine tastings, here blind tests uncovered that repeated recognition of the taste descriptions often fails, even by wine testing professionals and sommeliers. Even artificially coloured white wine was accepted to be quality red wine etc.. For example see the research results by Robert Hodgson ( http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-63947536.html ).

    But let's quote another example of expectation-driven imagination and verdicts. This comes from a completely different field, the HiFi audio community where the enthusiasts are seeking for the best sound quality. Here, the prices for technical HiFi equipment range from small amounts below 100 Euros to prices for so called high-end equipment for more than 100,000 Euros (e.g. for amplifiers). Enthusiasts even pay thousands of Euros for a simple electrical interconnection cable with special "voodoo" design (e.g. silver coated or with other special features). From pure technical perspective, all these cables have - with respect to the relevant audio frequency range - exactly the same transfer properties, so it does not matter if it is a simple wire for one Euro, only, or if it is such a special luxury wire for >1000 Euros, the sonic quality will always be equal. The same is valid for other kind of HiFi equipment, e.g. some HiFi enthusiasts believe in the extraordinary excellent sound quality of expensive mechanically damped Compact Disk drives for 10,000 Euros, however each CD player has a digital buffer chip that collects all bits and repairs all faulty bits by a software algorithm. So physically there cannot be any difference in sound quality between a simple CD drive for 100 Euros and a high-end drive for 10,000 Euros (here I do not speak about D/A converters which may differ in sonic quality). Even the professional HiFi magazines rate all different HiFi components by a sonic quality verdict with points, often between 0 and 100 points (in practice using only a sub-range). Within numerous blind tests it could be proven that all these rates, differences and points for certain groups of HiFi equipment are complete nonsense. For example the team from http://www.hifiaktiv.at.xserv08.internex.at/  has shown that most of the ratings for electrical cables, transistor amplifiers and CD players are complete nonsense.

    Nevertheless, still many HiFi enthusiasts believe in the sonic differences based on the ratings from professional HiFi magazines. They seem to hear the sonic quality differences between 0...100 points (respectively within the relevant sub-range). And this comes from pure psychological imagination, in reality all these sonic differences do not exist!

    0...100 points, doesn't this sound quite familiar to us whisky enthusiasts?

    So what about real quality differences and pure human imagination with regard to tasting whisky? Yes, they all taste different, no doubt, but what about the intrinsic quality level, so-called complexity level and so on???

    Just think about it ...

    ... it may put some of all these tasting verdicts, notes, ratings and quality comparisons into perspective ... ;-)

  5. Gloin scored this whisky 95 points Expert Senior

    The smell is very complex and changes with prolonged Verriechen several times, which is very exciting. The aroma needs time to develop. At the beginning, the sherry hides a lot, but that passes quickly. A beautiful nose. After such a great smell you are almost afraid to be disappointed with the taste. The taste is also excellent, the dirty and old is counteracted by a great sweetness, of course, the taste is not quite as complex as the smell, but still challenging complex. The smoke is just present enough to provide an interesting undertone. The finish adapts to the wonderful and continues the impression gained, but falls off very little. I wish him forever, unfortunately he is not.
    • Nose
      It starts immediately with intense sherry, cherries, the smoke is very subtle in the background, fallen brown leaves, after a moment the smoke pushes a little more forward, musty, then suddenly it becomes fresher, salty, like a sea breeze, mixed with a very delicate citrus notes, lilies, wet wood, baked apple with cinnamon It does not stop. Always new impressions come to it.
    • Taste
      Strong start, soft body, then immediately sweet, there's the downer again, wood, a touch of sulfur, a little smoke, all that makes me think of engine oil, old, dry sherry, dark chocolate with cherries
    • Finish
      Sweet and at the same time dry, a little bit of wood, smoke, the chocolate stays in the background, dirty, again comes the thought of engine oil, very long, but not long enough

  6. Lorion scored this whisky 96 points Expert Senior

    A masterpiece. Just terrific. A perfect combination of fruit, wood, smoke and sweetness. The coniferous forest is easy to kneel down. 96 points.
    • Nose
      97 97
      An earthy, leathery smoke floats in the room. A spicy whistle is squealing in the background. Raisins. Old, dusty chocolate. Coniferous forest. It's also burning somewhere. Thickened wild berry jam. Spicy oak is of course there too. Eucalyptus. Old, damp cellar. Charred pine needles. Boiling plum compote.
    • Taste
      96 96
      Incredibly full. Sweet. Chocolate is fully recovered. With raisins. Modriges leather. Dark chocolate comes along, it gets drier. It tastes like old library. The Nachschmecken is leathery-dry. Dark chocolate, espresso. Great!
    • Finish
      95 95
      Very long. Herb and musty. Spicy and warm.

  7. moving_coil scored this whisky 96 points Member Senior

    You will want to spend all evening with one or two glasses . It tastes more like a 40-50 year old whisky with so many old school notes. It is so rare a modern bottling can excel so highly on nose, mouth and finish

    One of the greatest Port Ellen's!
    • Nose
      In a rainstorm standing sheltered outside the best seafood restaurant in New York

      Sharing the sweetest cigarette with the object of your affection whilst holding their raw leather burgundy suitcaseExquisite smoke 
    • Taste
      On arrival Scarlet Chocolate Jam if such a thing existed

      Growing with the exquisite smoke from the sweet scarlet cigarette
    • Finish
      Eternal. Immaculate oakiness that is not overbearing with few tannins after 34 years

  8. Dram Dracula scored this whisky 94 points Expert Senior

    • Nose
      93 93
      An elegant, yet powerful, sherried whisky infused with smoke. Quite sharp, actually. Minty with a hint of eucalyptus. Black tea. Some bitter oak. I don't usually associate PE with juicy but this one is. Once warmed in glencairn glass, you can nose a condensed cherry syrup. For those that have tried "Pei Pa Koa", which is an old chinese syrup remedy for cough and sore throat, you can detect this here. The nose is not bright and overwhelming, but more subtle elegance. With water, some yellow and lighter-colored fruits come out, such as pears and pineapples, and also honeyed citrus fruit tea.
    • Taste
      95 95
      Wow, so so so much ooomph!! Quite brilliant. The smoke and sherry is still there, but dialed up a notch. Everything is crystal clear and crystal sharp. Doesn't deviate from its core, which is this dark, layered, intense smoke and elegant sherry. Clean, with no sulfur. Definitely some oak, but it provides more of a solid backbone to the taste rather than bitter woodiness. Not obviously fruity, but dried fruits aplenty. Cherry, tree bark, black grapes. I'm sure they charged a bit extra for the color also, but the taste is where the money is.
    • Finish
      94 94
      Drying, lingering sweetness from the sherry. Bitter chocolate-covered cherries. Wonderful length. Quite brilliant from start to finish. Is this so great that it can justify its absurd original price tag? No. That would be absurd. But this is 94 point greatness easy.

  9. Marduk1349 scored this whisky 100 points Newbie

    • Nose
      100 100
    • Taste
      100 100
    • Finish
      100 100

  10. Dottore scored this whisky 96 points Expert Senior

    So close to the whisky-heaven. My best sample so far. The nose is perfect. 96 points
    • Nose
      intense sherry, subtle smoke. Cherries, red berries, some citrus. slightly musty like moldy wet wood. Car tire. Tonka bean. Very changeable and beautiful. No, gigantic, really gigantic.
    • Taste
      Dry-spicy smoke. From the first start you are almost killed. With the second sip you can then rather grab the whisky without completely understanding it. Sweet sherry, again fruit compote. Peppery pungency on the tongue center. Dry wood aromas astringent the cheeks. Cinnamon, coffee, and cardamom flow through the nose as they exhale. Just makes every sip just happy. Tobacco. Raisins, minimal salt. Leather dryness comes again.
    • Finish
      Sweet and spicy. Tobacco. Walnut. dark chocolate cream.

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