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Octomore Edition 04.2 / 4_167

Overall rating
88.39/100
votes
398
Category
Single Malt
Distillery
Bottler
Distillery Bottling
Bottling serie
Comus 167 PPM
Bottled
02.2012
Stated Age
05 years old
Casktype
Bourbon / Chateau d'Yquem Sauternes Finish
Number of bottles
18000
Strength
61.0 % Vol.
Size
700 ml 750 ml
Bottle code
12/017, 01 FEB 2012 + 02 FEB 2012
Barcode
618105005785
Added on
04 Feb 2012 2:32 am
UncoloredNon-chillfilteredCask Strength

Average value

€ 525,10

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Whisky Reviews for Octomore Edition 04.2 / 4_167

43 users have left a review for this whisky and scored it an average of 88.39 points

  1. hs305 scored this whisky 86 points Connoisseur

    [September, 2018] Heavy peat and sweet wine - this could work much better than heavy peat and virgin oak (WB id 77393) at least for my taste buds. We will see (thanks again, VVP)...

    ...and this is much more to my liking but still not my prefered profile of malt whisky. The sour-sweet wine flavours somehow contain the aggressive peatiness instead boosting their bitterness (like the virgin oak did). But still I do not ask for a second dram...
    • Nose
      86 86
      The colour is pale straw and the nose offers a rather shy profile first, most probably due to the high abv of 61%. After some breathing just the peaty aromas pop up while the wine stays shy in the background. This changes after a fair reduction by water: The sweeter wine aromas show up and I can nose even some distant citric fruits now. Water is essential on this dram, for sure!
    • Taste
      87 87
      The taste shows a lot of peaty flavours (of course) but impressive sweeter wine flavours too that counter the bitter-astringent peat attack greatly. Still there is not much of the malt itself, after some chewing the barley sugars pop up and most probably there is nothing else in such an underaged dram (five years) at all. The reduced dram is more approachable and easier to drink - I like it best at around 46% abv.
    • Finish
      86 86
      The initial mouthfeel is hot (61% abv) with a nice coating effect but a drying-astringent feeling too (cold ashes). It is much better than the combo with virgin oak where the tannins rather multiply the astringent moments of the peat. The finish is long and sweeter than the taste both on the sour-sweet wine flavours and barley sugars with an acceptable dryness of the extreme peats (cold ashes again). Some water helps to smooth the finish (do lovers of such extreme drinks like a smooth finish, I doubt)...

  2. VaryingViewpoint scored this whisky 89 points Expert Senior

    After 6 weeks of oxidization this Octomore 4.2 has gone from a "A very nice dram" to an excellent dram.

    Nose; Slight lemony citrus, old vanilla, sweet smokePalate; Sweet malty smoke, lemon curd with light caramel.

    Finish; Sooty smoke with light caramel and citrus. 

    Not overly complex but a nice smoky sweet dram that only "New" Ardbeg can dream of.

    Up from an 88 to a 89.
    • Nose
      89 89
    • Taste
      90 90
    • Finish
      88 88

  3. Sandman23 scored this whisky 89 points Expert Senior

    • Nose
      88 88
    • Taste
      89 89
    • Finish
      90 90

  4. Fight65 scored this whisky 88 points Connoisseur

    This one shaked up the whisky industrie.
    Comment from Adam Hannet
    • Nose
      88 88
    • Taste
      89 89
    • Finish
      88 88

  5. Thermidor scored this whisky 83 points Expert Senior

    Dry yet sweet, if that makes any sense. At first I couldn't get much wine from it, but that may just have been because it was the last whisky in the lineup, and my nose must've already taken quite a beating by then. After a while the Sauternes becomes obvious, and it does not sit very well with me. Candied, with grilled pineapples and sugar, but also yeasty, which is not a welcome note in a young peater, regardless of whether it's from the distillate or from the cask.
    The taste is dominated by the wine's sweetness, and water doesn't change that very much. It's acceptable, but there is a lack of balance going on IMO.
    Tasted with the following Octomores: 01.1 (85 pts.) 02.1 (84), 02.2 (84), 03.1 (82), and 04.1 (88). While 04.1 was my favourite, Nearly half of the attending tasters voted 02.2 their top dram of the night.

    Some interesting tidbits mentioned during the tasting: There are among other factors two pretty big ones for why Octomore's peat tastes the way it does. The first is that all the peat is from the mainland, as Octomore does not use Port Ellen maltings or Islay peat. The second is that Bruichladdich's stills are loaded only to around 60% capacity and driven very carefully, so there is a lot of copper contact going on, which explains why the whisky's stated PPM level does not translate directly to the level of peatiness you experience when nosing and tasting it.

    In retrospect tasting 6 cask strength Octomores was the most difficult tasting I've ever been in. If regular peated Islay whisky can at times provide magnificent detail and contrast comparable to the Dutch master painters, having nothing but Octomore feels like trying to replicate a Rembrandt with a paint roller. The loudness of the phenols and the tight ABV clog the senses, so I could only finish the glass I deemed the best, and had to let my overworked nose and palate rest after that. An interesting experience in total, but I don't think I want to do it again.

  6. Tom na Gruagaich scored this whisky 85 points Connoisseur

    Sweet peat bomb, but the finish quite dry. Not nearly as fast as expected. The sweet wine barrel softens quite a bit. Somehow reminds of the Connemara CS. But still has the typical non-maritime peat Bruichladdich.

  7. GJR scored this whisky 87 points Expert Senior

    The use of the winecasks gives the dram deapth beyond the peat/smoke. Balanced dram albeit a bit clean.

    (Pricerating for orignal price)
    • Nose
      87 87
    • Taste
      86 86
    • Finish
      89 89

  8. Goethe scored this whisky 88 points Expert Senior

    Everything in here what you are waiting for associating an Octomore. Nice citrus smoke and ashes, a lot of citrus fruits. Tar and tobacco. The Chateau d'Yquem Sauternes is hiding very well, at the finihsline you might get a glimpse.Concerning price/performance ratio: 7/10
    • Nose
      Sweet gentle citrus smoke, overripe oranges and yellow fruits, honey, vanilla, citrus butter cake.
    • Taste
      Sweet spicy smoke. Tobacco, ashes, citrus, oranges.
    • Finish
      Long. Tobacco, ashes, yellow fruits.

  9. whiskycuse did not rate this whisky Expert Senior

    Tasting Notes:

    https://whiskycuse.wordpress.com/2012/12/30/octomore-comus-04-2/

  10. Donwaldorf scored this whisky 85 points Expert Senior

    My first Octomore -> Disappointment ... can be too much waiting on my part
    • Nose
      A nose much less peaty / smoked than I imagined / hoped for. Algae, iodine can be metal ...?
    • Taste
      Poorly integrated alcohol, the mouth is full of spices and peat. Like the nose, a certain "complexity" in his youth that is widely felt ...
    • Finish
      A medium finish on the smoke / peat ... and again ... nothing crazy.

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