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Lagavulin 16-year-old

Overall rating
87.63/100
votes
192
Category
Single Malt
Distillery
Bottler
Distillery Bottling
Bottling serie
Feis Ile 2017
Bottled
2017
Stated Age
16 years old
Casktype
Double Matured in Moscatel Oak Wood
Number of bottles
6000
Strength
56.1 % Vol.
Size
700 ml
Barcode
5000281048734
Added on
27 May 2017 9:00 am by Dris
UncoloredNon-chillfilteredCask Strength

Average value

€ 268.51

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Average 4 x 25 rates

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Category Rating
Nose
21
Taste
21
Finish
21
Balance
21

Tastingtags

29 Notes

rottendon
Connoisseur rottendon Note
04 Jun 2017 12:56 am
rottendon gave this whisky 78 points

After I heard that it was even used Moscatel casks they got from Caol Ila I think even more that the price is a no-go. They talked quite frankly about it, it's sort of a trash reduction if you will, the task was to find a way to re-use the old casks the Classic Malt Distilleries used for making their Distillers' Editions. As I said before, I like the idea of that experiment, but please don't fool us, it is not an extraordinary super sophisticated special vatting, it's just basic 16-year-old having been put in casks which would otherwise have been trashed.


As for my rating, I'd love to put a review here, using the weighted rate function, unfortunately being mobile this doesn't work. So it's low 80s for the nose, a little above 90 for the initial taste, again low 80s for Body and Finish. 85 for the presentation and 50 for the price. In my mind that adds up to a 78.


Just thought about it, I can be quite frank, too. You take the stuff which has a street price of about 40,-€ to 50,-€, put it in the rubbish of a neighboring distillery and sell it to the enthusiasts at the festival for almost four times the price! 
And then you hear sentences like "it doesn't matter, we're gonna sell the stuff anyway." yeah right, you probably are...

Gruß von hier...
rottendon
Connoisseur rottendon Tasting note
27 May 2017 11:03 pm
rottendon gave this whisky 78 points
Color
Pale straw
Nose

Etwas bissig zu Anfang, das legt sich aber schnell. Danach gibt es geriebene Äpfel und Karotten, ein paar mineralische Noten und etwas phenolischen Rauch, ziemlich viel Säure, die nicht fruchtig wirkt, eher Desinfektionsmittel. Standzeit ändert an sich nicht viel, im Hintergrund versucht eine dunkle, malzig karamellige Note nach vorne durchzudringen, was nicht gelingt. Erwärmt flacht er sogar merklich ab. Gummi, nasser Kalk, der Alkohol beißt wieder etwas. 

Taste

Im Mund fängt er dünn an, ohne dass sich irgendeine Note profilieren würde, irgendwie leicht süß halt, und das nächste was kommt, ist etwas mangelhaft eingebundener Alkohol der eine dunkle Süße mitbringt, welche zunächst an Blockmalz erinnert, dann aber immer mehr ins Zuckrige abdriftet. Von der Säure der Nase ist hier nichts mehr vorhanden.

Finish

Der Abgang wird dann zunehmend zuckriger und wärmt den Brustraum. Naturgemäß lang ist er auch, allerdings weiß ich nicht, ob er mir kürzer nicht lieber wäre. Auch hier versucht bis zum Schluss die Asche sich gegen das Zuckerwasser durchzusetzen, das Ganze wirkt labberig.

Comments

An sich sind die Noten in der Nase für sich genommen nicht schlecht, hier aber ist die Säure ganz aus der Balance geraten. Der Mund spricht eine völlig andere Sprache, die Blockmalznote erinnert mich sogar stark an den Laphroaig 21y FoL was eindeutig ein Kompliment ist, aber dieser Übergang zum Zucker reißt es wieder. Der Abgang schließlich schreit nach einer Tasse Kaffee, um den Zucker wegzuspülen.

Abgesehen davon, dass das Resultat aus meiner Sicht ziemlich zweifelhaft ist, empfinde ich das Experiment an sich interessant, die damit verbundene Preispolitik allerdings als Frechheit. Es sind die gleichen Fässer, die normalerweise in die Distiller's Edition gehen und die dazugehörigen Fässer wurden mal eben von einem anderen Classic Malt namens Caol Ila genommen. Würde ich das Resultat des Experiments gut finden, dann fände ich auch einen Preis im Bereich einer DE mit Faßstärkezuschlag, also um die 70,-£ bis 90,-£ angemessen, 125,-£ aber geht gar nicht mehr.

Gruß von hier...
ASWhisky
Connoisseur ASWhisky Tasting note
09 Jul 2017 10:05 pm
ASWhisky gave this whisky 91 points
Color
Yellow gold
Nose


direkt nach dem Einschenken: gelbe Noten, leicht Bourbon, etwas Rauch, helles Obst, leicht würzig, Zimt, Zitrusschale, feine Säure

nach einer Weile und Bewegung: Fass, helle getrocknete Rosinen leicht schimmelig, wieder die edle Säure die in der Nase leicht kribbelt, weit im Hintergrund brennt das Lagafeuer, edle Nase, helles Obst, weiße Schokolade mit Orangenschale - wow mal etwas ganz anderes, darauf muss man sich einlassen können

Taste


ein weicher, süßer Antritt, edel und der Zunge schmeichelnd, Rauch kommt im Rachen,

Orangenschale, die süßen hellen getrockneten Trauben, intensive schöne Säure, helles Obst, Bitterstoffe die sich mit Süße mischen, am Rachen dezent das Lagafeuer, Zimt auf der Zunge, Würze und Kräuter in der Säure - sehr edel und sehr lang 

Finish


lang 

Säure und Zitrus/Orange, Holz mit Malz und etwas Rauch, leichte Würze dazwischen

Comments


ein sehr stimmiger Whisky mit einem dezenten edlen Spannungsbogen von der Nase bis zum Abgang

kein typischer Lagavulin, der Brennereicharakter ist zu erkennen

ein Whisky der einen besonderen Anlass vertragen könnte oder zu einer Speise gereicht wird

er setzt Akzente

yes, I'm in Heaven  - 91 von 100 Punkten

unforgettable whisky takes you on a journey, gives you new dreams, awakens your forgotten dreams, moves you out of time.....
hs305
Connoisseur hs305 Note
31 May 2017 1:58 pm
hs305 gave this whisky 87 points

[May, 2017]  Yes, the price of 125 GBP is way too high when looking at it from a drinkers' perspective only.  But at least they dry out the greedy resellers that usually bought this case-wise and sold it via the Internet while still on Islay.  No big business for them anymore, and most probably it is still available at the distillery after the Feis.  Good for everyone who likes to buy a bottle when on Islay and in this respect I am willing to pay this premium (nevertheless it would have been better if they had sticked to the old standard price of 99 GBP)...

PS:  Hopefully everybody that is dissatisfied with the price tag of this Lagavulin told this either Georgie or Donald face-to-face during the Feis.  I did...

There is no accounting for taste...
hs305
Connoisseur hs305 Review note
02 Jun 2017 11:48 pm
hs305 gave this whisky 87 points

[May, 2017]  I had several drams during the Feis Ile, e.g. at Georgie's Masterclass or Pinky's Warehouse tasting.

The colour is pale straw and the texture shows fast thick legs and slow tears.  The nose is very fresh on citric fruits (lemons, lime - that vanish after a while) and a bold phenolic smokiness.  After that a nice heather honey sweetness takes place joined by malty aromas.  The mouthfeel is warming and instantly coating with a slight drying feeling of cold ashes and copper.  The taste is quite sweet, malty and phenolic.  Again some drying notes but this time rather from tannins.  The finish is very long and nicely sweet without compromising the balance of sweetness, maltiness and phenolic smoke.  Some drops of water release a much better nose but the drying resp. bitter notes of the taste increase too.  So nose it with water, but drink it neat (You find this hard to do?  I agree, but simply use two glasses...).  

I tried to comprehend the tasting note of rottendon below but failed - obviously there is no accounting for taste...  This Lagavulin is certainly not the strongest of all the Feis Ile editions so far but nevertheless a very fine dram.  

Weighted Rate
87.4
Nose
89
Initial taste
88
Body
88
Finish
87
Price
82
Presentation
88
There is no accounting for taste...
Tuco1972
Expert Junior Tuco1972 Review note
14 Apr 2018 7:20 am
Tuco1972 gave this whisky 85 points
Weighted Rate
84.6
Nose
84
Initial taste
85
Body
85
Finish
85
Price
83
Presentation
85
DenisL
Expert Junior DenisL Tasting note
13 Mar 2018 10:01 am
DenisL gave this whisky 90 points
Color
Pale gold
Nose

​Козинаки с ванилью,йод и соль.Свежие цитрусовые и корица.Горелая деревяшка в картонной коробке.Инжир,банан и пыль.(23)

Taste

​Сладкое,горелое палено.Фруктовые ноты,картон и ментол и имбирь.(22)

Finish

​Финиш шершавый,пепельный и сладкий.Леденец с перцем,корицей и мёдом.Зубная паста и карамболь

Comments

Баланс(22)​ 

На дубовой палке горит сладкая вата с солью

Весёлый,сладкий,фестивальный:)(90)

Christian Rousselet
Member Senior Christian Rousselet Note
25 Dec 2017 9:44 am
Christian Rousselet gave this whisky 91 points

Or jaune


nez:


un peu de fumée, fruits légers, légèrement épicés, cannelle, zestes d'agrumes, orange, chocolat blanc, bourbon. C’est très élégant. 


bouche:


un début doux et noble, flatteur sur la langue, la fumée entre dans la gorge, la peau d'orange, les raisins secs, la cannelle. 


Finale:


Une finale fumée tout en douceur, longueur et élégance. C’est beau. 


un whisky très harmonieux, la finition en fût de Moscatel apporte une douceur fort appréciable. 


91 sur 100 points sans hésitation

Talisker_22
Expert Junior Talisker_22 Review note
12 Dec 2017 11:30 pm
Talisker_22 gave this whisky 88 points
Weighted Rate
88.2
Nose
88
Initial taste
89
Body
87
Finish
90
Price
85
Presentation
89
kaasklop
Expert Junior kaasklop Review note
10 Dec 2017 5:55 pm
kaasklop gave this whisky 87 points
Weighted Rate
86.6
Nose
87
Initial taste
88
Body
86
Finish
85
Price
87
Presentation
87

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