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Tormore 1984 CA

Overall rating
87.76/100
votes
35
Category
Single Malt
Distillery
Bottler
Cadenhead (CA)
Bottling serie
Small Batch
Vintage
1984
Bottled
01.2015
Stated Age
30 years old
Strength
55.8 % Vol.
Size
700 ml
Added on
19 Jan 2015 6:27 pm by ARDBERG
UncoloredNon-chillfilteredCask Strength

Average value

€ 215,12

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89
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88
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88
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Average 4 x 25 rates

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Finish
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Tastingtags

3 Notes

hs305
Connoisseur hs305 Review note
30 Apr 2018 12:41 am
hs305 gave this whisky 88 points

[April, 2018]  I tasted the 13-years old Tormore distilled in 1984 during my CGBP-project and found it average at best with a somewhat dry and bitter finish.  So I am curious how the sister casks matured over such a long time of more than 30 years.  To make it more interesting I do a head-to-head of the 13-years old https://www.whiskybase.com/whiskies/whisky/5092/tormore-1984-ca versus the 33-years old https://www.whiskybase.com/whiskies/whisky/102729/tormore-1984-ca versus this 30-years old (all Cadenhead casks from 1984).   

Colour:  The 13y is of pale gold, the 30y is two shades darker at old gold and the 33y is another two shades darker at amber.  The texture of the 33y shows fat sticky tears that refuse to build legs for a long time, the 30y has many small tears that consolidate to a sticky ring that builds a few fat tears with slow legs and the 13y shows the same oiliness as the 30y. 

Nose:  The 13y offers a somewhat immature nose on mainly spring floral notes, the 30y is much more complex on floral, nutty and barley sugary aromas while the 33y offers a truly fine nose on all the above plus some spices and herbs.  I like the 33y best closely followed by the 30y.  The 13y is much weaker.  Initial mouthfeel:  The 33y arrives warming and a little coating without any distracting moments, the 30y is somewhat more coating with a minor peppery adstringent feeling and the 13y arrives hot and a little bitter-adstringent from heavy tannins.  I go for a draw between the 33y and 30y.  The 13y is again significantly weaker. 

Taste:  The 13y offers a rich but somewhat austere taste profile of floral, herbal and wooden flavours.  The 30y is about the same profile but with fine nutty and fruity notes added.  It is much more complex with an interesting nutty spike.  The 33y is even more complex and for sure more balanced than the 30y with more of the fine fruity, heather honey and spicy flavours.  This round takes the 33y clearly (and guess how I rate the 13y). 

Finish:  The 33y has a long finish with more sugary-sweet and spicy flavours without any distracting bitter, drying or adstringent notes.  The 30y owns a medium to long finish on mostly barley sugary and spicy wooden flavours, interestingly the nuttiness is somewhat gone now.  The finish of the 13y is long but it dries out with some adstringentness from heavy tannins, unfortunately.  Again the 33y is the clear winner and the 13y looses this round again. 

Water opens up the 33y nicely and releases more aromas, nevertheless I like the neat dram better.  Reducing the 30y does not work that well as the water releases some unwanted bitter notes, again the neat dram is best.  The 13y clearly benefits from adding water as the dryness/adstringent moments vanish to a large part and the whisky gets much more approachable.   

This was a very interesting experience.  Obviously the cask of the 13y was a first fill that contributed too much tannins from the fresh wood so it had to be bottled very early (to avoid it gets even more bitter and adstringent).  The 30+y old drams matured in refill casks, for sure, and so they could stand the test of time and developed a much more complex and balanced fine whisky profile out of basically the same distillate.  I like the 33y best but the 30y is a fine dram too, definitely.  The 13y shows why fresh (new wood) casks are not really recommended to Scotch whisky spirits except you bottle it at very young ages (NAS) already...

Weighted Rate
88.1
Nose
88
Initial taste
88
Body
89
Finish
88
Price
86
Presentation
89
There is no accounting for taste...
raithrover
Member Senior raithrover Review note
07 Jan 2017 11:08 am
raithrover gave this whisky 88 points

Colour: golden syrup
Nose: green apples initially hinting at the DNA of the original 1970's Tormore bottling. Added layers with toffee, honey, a rich Ovaltine and Rice Krispies. Then vanilla nougat, pencil shavings and cream soda. 
Taste: a resin-like texture concentrates your attention. The lovely thickness and oozing is followed by pine cones, nuttiness with lots of vanilla and a blast of lemon. With water this Tormore becomes zesty with lots of limes and icing sugar.

Overall: a lovely example of a Tormore and I'd place this as above the aforementioned Whisky Broker. The years have suited this extremely well and it comes recommended. A great bridge between the old-style 1970's bottlings and the fresher approach seen in the late 80's and early 90's from the distillery. If you enjoyed the current cask strength Tormore from Chivas, then you'll love this.

Weighted Rate
87.5
Nose
87
Initial taste
85
Body
90
Finish
86
Price
92
Presentation
87
Jimjam
Expert Senior Jimjam Note
26 May 2016 7:01 am

Cadenhead's tasting notes:

Nose: Sweet red fruits, a nice mix of sweet spices including ginger and aniseed, quite well balanced

Palate: Rich soft churned toffee along with the spices from the nose including ginger, then honeycomb and ripe sweet pears

Finish: A hint of the sweet spices and some citrus notes, a clean edge then a little more spice and citrus

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