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Ganga
Expert Junior Junior Expert
Posted on 31-03-2019 at 04:58 am

Most of us here have spent a significant amount of time following our passion.  So my question is are you a whisky snob or are you more of a snob with a focus?  


Me?  I love whisky.  Bourbon, rye, Japanese, scotch...ok, not Canadian.  Sorry Davin.  For me, it is about seeking out experience in whiskies of various maturations, finishes and peating levels.  


Based on this, are you a Whisky Snob, Scotch Whisky Snob, Peat Snob, Sherry Snob, or something else?

VaryingViewpoint
Expert Senior Senior Expert
Posted on 31-03-2019 at 07:32 am

I'm a scotch snob! And a very selective scotch snob at that. I was never an advent drinker of any spirit for most of my life. I never drank anything stronger than a glass of wine once in a while with dinner until 10 years ago my wife asked me to "try this", I did. I thought it was great "what is it?" I asked, “scotch". From that night on, I was a scotch drinker. And a very finicky scotch drinker at that. What sold me on scotch was that I never thought I could or would like any hard liquor. 

I wish I wasn't a scotch snob, because I would rather not be so picky in what I like. But I am what I am and I really am not a drinker by heart, but I do love a fine scotch. I've tried bourbon many times wanting to like it, but I don't. I have this funny sick feeling that if I was to try some of the higher priced harder to get bourbons I would probably like those better. But who knows? I only think that because I would assume the more sought after high priced ones would be better and more to my liking. But, I've been proven wrong on that idea many times with scotch as evident with my distain with Macallan, as when I had a Macallan 25yo and that was a big let down. 

It's taken me the last four plus years to find what I like in a scotch, and for me there is not much out there that fits the bill for me, so to speak. That's probably why I'm such a multi-bottle purchaser. When I find something that I really like, I have to have many of those bottles because I don't  know when and if I'll find another one at an affordable price. Especially in this day and age!

  Edited on 31-03-2019 at 07:47 am
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karloff
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 31-03-2019 at 10:43 am

You only have to look at what I've been drinking down the years to see that I'm a stone cold, unashamed  'Whisky Slut'  

I have had everything and will try anything from the sublime to the extreme. A plunge into the unknown now and again I find an adventure. 

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Tom Waits
lincolnimp
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 31-03-2019 at 12:47 pm

I like to think I am eclectic whisky drinker verging on being what Karloff describes.

I have kept trying bourbon even though I struggle with it but there are some old ones out there that are really good and a recent Blanton's I tried was also nice so need to keep going on that score.

I have tried plenty of grain but it does not match single malt for the experience, on the subject of blends, I have had some real rubbish but there are some absolute gems out there that for taste can match any single malt, well almost any single malt anyway certainly better than some of the overpriced stuff about these days.

I think you do need to explore what is on offer out there because in all streams of whisky, even the ones you do not like there is always something.

I like to try whisky from all distilleries, especially unloved ones as from time to time some great casks emerge, Fettercairn, (only one so far) Macduff, Speyburn, Teaninich, Inchgower, Brackla etc etc .

Variety is the spice of life, if I was a snob in some way as Ganga asks it would be for closed  Distilleries, I have had bottles from them and samples , closed distilleries like North Port, Hillside, Coleburn are getting really scarce, soon the opportunity to try them will have gone forever and that style of whisky making to try also lost (a great shame)

BenNevis
Expert Senior Senior Expert
Posted on 31-03-2019 at 15:38 pm

I was a whisky snob, Macallans was the best and I would only drink Scotch Malt whisky. Over the last 10 years or so I like to think I have got a more broader taste. I travel to the USA a lot and have found some good bourbon bars and I like and enjoy trying bourbons now. Scotch Malt whisky is still my favourite but I enjoy trying new flavours too now. Last year I got to try some  Chichibu Japanese whisky and  I thought yes this is good happy  

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Bart&Claudia
Member Senior Senior Member
Posted on 31-03-2019 at 19:36 pm

I am not a snob, but I am fussy. 

Slàinte Mhath
Administrator Administrator
Posted on 31-03-2019 at 19:59 pm

Not a snob, rather the opposite. I try everything I can get my hands on, be it old and rare Single Malt or cheap blend. You cannot appreciate the one without knowing the other. Every dram has something to offer if you are willing to explore it. It's not that I would refuse to enjoy a rare and expensive malt, on the contrary, but not on a regular basis. It would spoil my senses and I'd risk to loose the appreciation of a good every day's dram.

With that being said, I'd consider myself an explorer with a firm belief that every malt or blend has something to offer.

-Slainte

  Edited on 31-03-2019 at 20:04 pm
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Ganga
Expert Junior Junior Expert
Posted on 01-04-2019 at 00:34 am

karloff wrote:

You only have to look at what I've been drinking down the years to see that I'm a stone cold, unashamed  'Whisky Slut'  

I have had everything and will try anything from the sublime to the extreme. A plunge into the unknown now and again I find an adventure. 

Fellow sluts!  But whisky sluts.  

Generally speaking, I don't drink much of other spirits which in that way makes me "snobbish".  The exception seems to be that I have a certain desire for some of the aged rums.

  Edited on 01-04-2019 at 00:36 am
mrgood
Expert Junior Junior Expert
Posted on 01-04-2019 at 16:34 pm

Slàinte Mhath wrote:

It's not that I would refuse to enjoy a rare and expensive malt, on the contrary, but not on a regular basis. It would spoil my senses and I'd risk to loose the appreciation of a good every day's dram.

Hear hear!  I was in real danger of becoming a snob, as when I first started buying bottles at significant rates I was only buying well-regarded stuff, so the only whisky I was drinking was top-shelf.  It was not long before I was so spoiled by 85+ whisky that I'd then have a standard Glenfiddich or Glenlivet and think "ugh, what is this drivel".  (I still get a particular "meh" when I have those, and it's entirely possible that's left-over disinterest).

However, the irony of me complaining about whisky inflation is it is likely that which brought be back from the edge of the Cliffs of Snobbery.  It priced me out of the market and I was forced to branch out.  Now I'll give pretty much anything a go, from whisky worldwide to rum to rye to brandy to grappa  to...

Whisky Epicurean
Member Senior Senior Member
Posted on 04-04-2019 at 15:38 pm

Well, nickname tells it all ..


I enjoy whisky quite seldom alone. I'm typically participating to tastings that my fellow enthusiastics or I myself organize and rarely to society organized tastings. But I spend quite much time to figure out what to purchase next. I read a lot review comments from different place and try to make long term plan for the purchases (and tastings). This I do way too often ... nearly daily basis and I feel that I should try to cut it little bit.


Kudos Epicuros

Kirby
Expert Junior Junior Expert
Posted on 16-04-2019 at 04:32 am

I am definitely not a snob.  100% Slut.  I find it hard to be snobbish... I have found some gem's that I would have never known about if I just dismissed whiskies for one reason or another.  That said I am quite grouchy when I spend close to $100 on a bottle and get a dud.  

Ancient
Expert Junior Junior Expert
Posted on 16-04-2019 at 05:19 am

I suppose it depends on how one defines the words snob and slut!

I am open to try any whiskey, in any price range.

Over the years, I have seen that my understanding and appreciation for diverse styles and flavor profiles has significantly expanded.

On the other hand, I would rather drink water than a whisky I don't enjoy - whatever the price.

So maybe I am a bit of both!

A snob because If I don't like it, I won't drink it .

A slut because I find myself able to enjoy more and more whiskies, no matter where they are from, what they are called, or what they cost!



Ancient
Ganga
Expert Junior Junior Expert
Posted on 18-04-2019 at 19:04 pm

Snob would only drink certain whiskies.  That could be:  only select distilleries, only one type of whisky, only a select style of whisky.


Slut will try many things and is open to different types and styles of whisky from many distilleries.  


Whore...well...they get paid.

karloff
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 18-04-2019 at 19:18 pm
Ganga wrote:

Snob would only drink certain whiskies.  That could be:  only select distilleries, only one type of whisky, only a select style of whisky.


Slut will try many things and is open to different types and styles of whisky from many distilleries.  


Whore...well...they get paid.


Jim Murray is a Screaming Whore then.  wink 

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Tom Waits
lincolnimp
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 18-04-2019 at 21:16 pm
karloff wrote:
Ganga wrote:

Snob would only drink certain whiskies.  That could be:  only select distilleries, only one type of whisky, only a select style of whisky.


Slut will try many things and is open to different types and styles of whisky from many distilleries.  


Whore...well...they get paid.


Jim Murray is a Screaming Whore then.  wink 


I will try absolutely anything, nothing off limits and if someone wants to pay me to be a whisky whore, all the better happy

cfosterk
Expert Senior Senior Expert
Posted on 18-04-2019 at 22:45 pm

I aspire to be a whisky snob but my wallet means I trawl through mediocre and passable drams. I’d like to drink port Ellen’s and broras; st Magdalene and glenugie; ancient lagavulins and laphroaigs

ovanpuyvelde
Expert Senior Senior Expert
Posted on 19-04-2019 at 12:41 pm

I started off kind of snobbish and turned into a slut. 

Back in 2014 when I started my whisky journey, I immediately skipped drinking (most) standard OB’s in order to develop my taste because most of my “more experienced” whisky buddies back then were already whisky snobs / collectors with an acquired taste. I started drinking and (even more so) collecting independent single malt whiskies priced between 80€ and 120€. Soon, the average prices of my bottles went upwards.

Now, 5 years and many drams/samples/tastings later, I tried more whiskies than most of my whisky buddies who initially introduced me to it. I realize that I became a snobbish collector through them and that they were not necessarily more experienced drinkers. I regret that I didn’t start off with drinking as many standard drams as possible, exploring the diversity in distillery profiles.

After whisky inflation and a few years of wisdom, I became who I always wanted to be last year: A whisky slut. I sold 90% of my collectible bottles and started drinking affordable drams. I mostly buy affordable whiskies now priced below 100€ and there’s always great stuff to discover there. I realize that there’s still so many unknown distillery profiles out there, despite the fact that I already tried many high end expressions. I enjoyed (and still enjoy from time to time) the Brora’s and other great ‘70s distillates but I don’t agree with what most experienced drinkers say: “Once you tried the great stuff, there is no way back.” To me, it’s not really a “way back” since I didn’t drink most of the standard stuff in the first place.

  Edited on 19-04-2019 at 15:25 pm
lincolnimp
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 19-04-2019 at 17:27 pm

ovanpuyvelde wrote:

I started off kind of snobbish and turned into a slut. 

Back in 2014 when I started my whisky journey, I immediately skipped drinking (most) standard OB’s in order to develop my taste because most of my “more experienced” whisky buddies back then were already whisky snobs / collectors with an acquired taste. I started drinking and (even more so) collecting independent single malt whiskies priced between 80€ and 120€. Soon, the average prices of my bottles went upwards.

Now, 5 years and many drams/samples/tastings later, I tried more whiskies than most of my whisky buddies who initially introduced me to it. I realize that I became a snobbish collector through them and that they were not necessarily more experienced drinkers. I regret that I didn’t start off with drinking as many standard drams as possible, exploring the diversity in distillery profiles.

After whisky inflation and a few years of wisdom, I became who I always wanted to be last year: A whisky slut. I sold 90% of my collectible bottles and started drinking affordable drams. I mostly buy affordable whiskies now priced below 100€ and there’s always great stuff to discover there. I realize that there’s still so many unknown distillery profiles out there, despite the fact that I already tried many high end expressions. I enjoyed (and still enjoy from time to time) the Brora’s and other great ‘70s distillates but I don’t agree with what most experienced drinkers say: “Once you tried the great stuff, there is no way back.” To me, it’s not really a “way back” since I didn’t drink most of the standard stuff in the first place.


 This all makes sense to me and how do you define `great stuff` anyway. In my view there should be great whisky at all price points you just need to do your homework.

I have had my share  of 60`s & 70`s distillate and it is good but not all good and with whisky inflation there certainly needs to be a `way back` in my view.

I went on my big blend adventure looking for value and had a great time, not withstanding that I tasted some real rubbish but I also discovered some real gems worthy of a purchase.

I like to mix it up, all price points, all types of whiskies, sure I like the good stuff  who doesn`t but there is something really satisfying finding an old malt or blend for £50-£100 and knowing taste wise it is a bargain buy. Unfortunately these chances are diminishing so act now people.


Ganga
Expert Junior Junior Expert
Posted on 19-04-2019 at 22:22 pm

I'm with LI here.  There is great stuff and poor stuff throughout the price ranges.  I started my journey in 1994.  I had access to a lot of 50s to 70s vintage whiskies.  I have even tried a Dunglass.  $2K bottle that really should be about $30.  It was less than mediocre to say the least.  Then again, I had bottles of the Springbank 12 100 (infamous double dark and light dark bottles for the US market) and they were $60 per bottle.  


I say, find stuff you like and enjoy them.  It doesn't have to be the same as your neighbor or friend.

karloff
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 20-04-2019 at 00:06 am
Ganga wrote:

I'm with LI here.  There is great stuff and poor stuff throughout the price ranges.  I started my journey in 1994.  I had access to a lot of 50s to 70s vintage whiskies.  I have even tried a Dunglass.  $2K bottle that really should be about $30.  It was less than mediocre to say the least.  Then again, I had bottles of the Springbank 12 100 (infamous double dark and light dark bottles for the US market) and they were $60 per bottle.  


I say, find stuff you like and enjoy them.  It doesn't have to be the same as your neighbor or friend.


What I like about being a slut is that I can enjoy a nice bourbon, an old aged scotch and a very young English whisky In the same sitting no problem. 

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Tom Waits
VaryingViewpoint
Expert Senior Senior Expert
Posted on 20-04-2019 at 00:24 am
karloff wrote:
Ganga wrote:

I'm with LI here.  There is great stuff and poor stuff throughout the price ranges.  I started my journey in 1994.  I had access to a lot of 50s to 70s vintage whiskies.  I have even tried a Dunglass.  $2K bottle that really should be about $30.  It was less than mediocre to say the least.  Then again, I had bottles of the Springbank 12 100 (infamous double dark and light dark bottles for the US market) and they were $60 per bottle.  


I say, find stuff you like and enjoy them.  It doesn't have to be the same as your neighbor or friend.


What I like about being a slut is that I can enjoy a nice bourbon, an old aged scotch and a very young English whisky In the same sitting no problem. 

That's a very interesting three-way!

One life... Drink it well
karloff
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 20-04-2019 at 12:35 pm
karloff wrote:
Ganga wrote:

I'm with LI here.  There is great stuff and poor stuff throughout the price ranges.  I started my journey in 1994.  I had access to a lot of 50s to 70s vintage whiskies.  I have even tried a Dunglass.  $2K bottle that really should be about $30.  It was less than mediocre to say the least.  Then again, I had bottles of the Springbank 12 100 (infamous double dark and light dark bottles for the US market) and they were $60 per bottle.  


I say, find stuff you like and enjoy them.  It doesn't have to be the same as your neighbor or friend.


What I like about being a slut is that I can enjoy a nice bourbon, an old aged scotch and a very young English whisky In the same sitting no problem. 

That's a very interesting three-way!


That's what you would call a whisky Menage a trois  wink 

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Tom Waits
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