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Ganga
Expert Junior Junior Expert
Posted on 31-08-2018 at 05:55 am

Does anyone ever alter their whiskies or use high end whiskies to make a mixed drink?  


Tonight I had some Highland bourbon finished whisky and added fresh herbs to it (basil and oregano).  It was quite interesting.  It certainly deserves more exploration.  Now I want pizza.


Previously I have infused bourbon with mint leaves.


VaryingViewpoint
Moderator Moderator
Posted on 31-08-2018 at 06:05 am

I could never do that. Even if a whisky is not to my liking I will never alter it to drink it other than adding water. And if it's still off-putting to me I won't drink it at all.

Not all whiskies are worth drinking. In any form.

You're right that is Blasphemous!

  Edited on 31-08-2018 at 06:08 am
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Ganga
Expert Junior Junior Expert
Posted on 31-08-2018 at 06:43 am

This started because Mint Juleps are the drink of the Kentucky Derby.  I can't stand whisky watered down that way so I infused mint and had the whisky at strength.  Much better than a julep.

VaryingViewpoint
Moderator Moderator
Posted on 31-08-2018 at 06:51 am

Interesting. I to prefer my scotch at full strength as well, I very seldom add any water, unless it's really need.

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mrgood
Expert Junior Junior Expert
Posted on 31-08-2018 at 16:20 pm

VaryingViewpoint wrote:

Interesting. I to prefer my scotch at full strength as well, I very seldom add any water, unless it's really need.

In general I'd recommend not disregarding water entirely.  It can expand the experience quite bit, sometimes transforming the whisky entirely.  As long as you're careful not to drown it many a whisky opens up beautifully with a little dab of water.  Especially high strength stuff.  Uigeadail and A'bunadh (depending on the batch) are two examples I've had great success with water experimentation.  The A'bunadh #36 I actually preferred with quite a lot of water.

As for being blasphemous, I'll admit to on occasion adding... things.  I've had whisky that I personally found just not palatable on it's own and can't bring myself to flush it so it becomes a whisky-and-coke-on-ice for those hot summer days (standard Crown Royal being a good example).  I even made a whisky milkshake one time with some mocha irish cream type stuff (among other things)... though that usually works better with rum.

VaryingViewpoint
Moderator Moderator
Posted on 31-08-2018 at 17:26 pm

mrgood wrote:

VaryingViewpoint wrote:

Interesting. I to prefer my scotch at full strength as well, I very seldom add any water, unless it's really needed.

In general I'd recommend not disregarding water entirely.  It can expand the experience quite bit, sometimes transforming the whisky entirely.  As long as you're careful not to drown it many a whisky opens up beautifully with a little dab of water.  Especially high strength stuff.  Uigeadail and A'bunadh (depending on the batch) are two examples I've had great success with water experimentation.  The A'bunadh #36 I actually preferred with quite a lot of water.

As for being blasphemous, I'll admit to on occasion adding... things.  I've had whisky that I personally found just not palatable on it's own and can't bring myself to flush it so it becomes a whisky-and-coke-on-ice for those hot summer days (standard Crown Royal being a good example).  I even made a whisky milkshake one time with some mocha irish cream type stuff (among other things)... though that usually works better with rum.

I understand about adding water to expand the experience, but in my experience adding water has been a downer, so much so I don't bother anymore unless needed. I find adding water no matter how careful I am dilutes the experience, most of the time. 

As for whisky milkshakes and some mocha irish cream type stuff? That I would do with some scotch that I would consider poring down the drain as being not drinkable. Making it into a desert drinks sounds great on a hot summer day!happy

  Edited on 31-08-2018 at 17:27 pm
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lincolnimp
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 31-08-2018 at 23:31 pm

VVP how do you add water, do you use a pourer or a pipette or anything else?

 I agree with mrgood, a few carefully placed droplets can make a real difference, 4 or 5 big drops can ruin a decent whisky on the other hand.

You will find that many cask strength whisky can be closed approaching 60% and a few drops really  can make a for a different taste experience.

VaryingViewpoint
Moderator Moderator
Posted on 31-08-2018 at 23:53 pm

lincolnimp wrote:

VVP how do you add water, do you use a pourer or a pipette or anything else?

 I agree with mrgood, a few carefully placed droplets can make a real difference, 4 or 5 big drops can ruin a decent whisky on the other hand.

You will find that many cask strength whisky can be closed approaching 60% and a few drops really  can make a for a different taste experience.

I use a pitcher.wink

I know to add only a drop or two to start. I know adding water is the thing to do. I've heard it for years from every source; Ralfy on YouTube, Whiskfun, here on WB with all the reviews that's I've read and the many other videos I've watched. For the most part I just haven't found that it adds to my experience. Adding water dilutes certain flavours while adding subtle hints of others and that does not always please to me and my wife. Adding water just ain't my thing.  Unless it's really ruff.

  Edited on 01-09-2018 at 01:53 am
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tomjcollins85
Expert Senior Senior Expert
Posted on 01-09-2018 at 00:42 am

lincolnimp wrote:

VVP how do you add water, do you use a pourer or a pipette or anything else?

 I agree with mrgood, a few carefully placed droplets can make a real difference, 4 or 5 big drops can ruin a decent whisky on the other hand.

You will find that many cask strength whisky can be closed approaching 60% and a few drops really  can make a for a different taste experience.

I use a pitcher.wink

I'm know to add only a drop or two to start. I know adding water is the thing to do. I've heard it for years from every source; Ralfy on YouTube, Whiskfun, here on WB with all the reviews that's I've read and the many other videos I've watched. For the most part I just haven't found that it adds to my experience. Adding water dilutes certain flavours while adding subtle hints of others and that does not always please to me and my wife. Adding water just ain't my thing.  Unless it's really ruff.


Have you ever had a go on the Speyburn Clan Cask? If there was ever a case where a few drops of water transforms the drink.... wink

karloff
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 01-09-2018 at 01:04 am

If I'm really enjoying a cask strength whisky, water goes nowhere near it and I couldn't care less what Dave Broom says. Cask Strength is a world of it's own and has many flavours. I went on a few  whisky tours lately and some asked if I wanted some water in my 40% whisky. Erm No. 

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Tom Waits
Ganga
Expert Junior Junior Expert
Posted on 01-09-2018 at 01:12 am

Hey, no hijacking the thread!

karloff
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 01-09-2018 at 01:19 am
Ganga wrote:

Hey, no hijacking the thread!


OK then no I've added nothing. 

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Tom Waits
tomjcollins85
Expert Senior Senior Expert
Posted on 01-09-2018 at 21:24 pm
Ganga wrote:

Hey, no hijacking the thread!


Who's hijacking? Every response has been in relation to altering their drink.

Ganga
Expert Junior Junior Expert
Posted on 02-09-2018 at 01:31 am

Adding water is not blasphemous, especially when you are talking about eyedroppers or other measuring devices.  

dram_on
Expert Junior Junior Expert
Posted on 02-09-2018 at 03:07 am

Dunno if this counts as blasphemous, but last night I mixed what whisky was remaining in my Glengoyne 18 (~ 150mL) and in my HP Full Throttle (~ 300mL) bottles. Gonna let them marry for a week, and try them next weekend. Should be fun.

Ganga
Expert Junior Junior Expert
Posted on 02-09-2018 at 20:58 pm

DO, I like it!


Last night I was mixing for the group.  I took Hirsch bourbon and added 7-UP and a ton of ice.  Even they said, "The bourbon's too good to do that."  But they drank it.

mrgood
Expert Junior Junior Expert
Posted on 04-09-2018 at 01:41 am
dram_on wrote:

Dunno if this counts as blasphemous, but last night I mixed what whisky was remaining in my Glengoyne 18 (~ 150mL) and in my HP Full Throttle (~ 300mL) bottles. Gonna let them marry for a week, and try them next weekend. Should be fun.

Nope not blasphemous.  Most adventurous drammers have tried making a home blend of sorts with their low bottles at some point... with mixed results happy

Take a look at the Living Bottles thread for a similar idea on what to do with low bottles

https://www.whiskybase.com/contribute/group/73/topic/14664/living-bottles

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