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lincolnimp
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 02-04-2016 at 10:25 am
thanasist wrote:
cfosterk wrote:

For sale on whiskybase at £450.00 but if its just the whisky you want and can afford its £150 direct!

http://www.maltwhiskydistilleries.com/Shop/Welcome/Shop/tabid/54/CategoryID/5/Default.aspx

How about this for the first whisky club purchase??


Cforstek, besides your link there is also this one

http://staging.maltwhiskydistillery.com/Store/Shop-Products/CategoryID/5/ProductID/35/PageIndex/1

250 pounds there although the same company same numbers tel, adress all the same except a bit different webname ???????

Any ideas on why is this? Also one site has an indication somewhere 2007 and the other 2013 as registered or something


Lincolnlimp, in your n. 7 question i could suggest that there could be 2, even 3 persons, depending where the original location of the buying bottles is. Probably UK , Germany and Netherlands maybe? And UK and Germany for sure since many shops there don't send abroad and someone has to make the order and get the bottles to proceed with the distribution of the samples.

Indeed it is a very good idea but as you mentioned shipping cost might be the problem.


It will just be an old site that has not been taken down with the original price on. There are loads of these splattered all over the internet.

If the site has not been maintained since 2007 that is a give away that it is not maintained anymore.

I remember contacting a German site dating from 2009 with all the old prices still on. I contacted them and they were obviously not trading anymore but the reason the site was still on was in case they started trading again.



  Edited on 02-04-2016 at 11:52 am
thanasist
Expert Senior Senior Expert
Posted on 02-04-2016 at 20:48 pm

So you think that the old site might be not operational and the correct price for these bottles is the 250 pounds instead of the 150 mentioned by cfosterk?
Shipping only to UK though so i guess you living there are a bit lucky . Might have higher prices in some bottles but it is impossible that you miss one if you want it.
SO 150 pounds at release, 250 now and 350+ in the stores happy

lincolnimp
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 02-04-2016 at 21:27 pm
thanasist wrote:

So you think that the old site might be not operational and the correct price for these bottles is the 250 pounds instead of the 150 mentioned by cfosterk?
Shipping only to UK though so i guess you living there are a bit lucky . Might have higher prices in some bottles but it is impossible that you miss one if you want it.
SO 150 pounds at release, 250 now and 350+ in the stores happyYes


Yes pretty much, but the site may be still working it might even take orders (if you want to risk your money) but they would just cancel them as the official price for the Inverleven on the new site is £275 and all stock will have been updated I assume.

I had exactly the same thing with a British site that were advertising the G&M Rare Old Series, the Brora and Glenlochy (In Maroon boxes) were shown as the original selling price at issue. I paid for them only to be told a week later that the site was old and the prices had been updated on a new site and they sent me a link.
I obviously complained and said they should supply them but they refused and pointed me to the agreement pages saying they had a right to cancel the order at any time, I got my money back no problem.
The old saying `if it sounds to good to be true` then it normally is.


  Edited on 03-04-2016 at 01:38 am
karloff
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 08-04-2016 at 14:13 pm

In-between jobs today,I popped into a local charity shop and found a hard back cover of The Original Malt Whisky Almanac A Tasters Guide 7th edition by Wallace Milroy for 50p. Didn't know much about this book or it's author,so I googled it and it took me straight to Amazon where there are 24 offers of this book for 1p ha ha....I've been ripped off happy . Anyway,I've never heard this bloke mentioned on this site along with the usual suspects. Does anyone rate him and is he highly thought of in the whisky world?

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Tom Waits
lincolnimp
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 08-04-2016 at 14:39 pm
karloff wrote:

In-between jobs today,I popped into a local charity shop and found a hard back cover of The Original Malt Whisky Almanac A Tasters Guide 7th edition by Wallace Milroy for 50p. Didn't know much about this book or it's author,so I googled it and it took me straight to Amazon where there are 24 offers of this book for 1p ha ha....I've been ripped off happy . Anyway,I've never heard this bloke mentioned on this site along with the usual suspects. Does anyone rate him and is he highly thought of in the whisky world?


Yes he is quite highly rated I believe as a whisky writer and a former whisky shop owner, I also have that small book I think my copy is from 1987. (he is possibly holding up a bottle of Glenfarclas if I remember rightly)
The thing what I like about that book is that he refers to the standard offerings available at the time because back then single malts were not on everyone`s radar.
He speaks about 8, 10 and 12 year bottlings in the main.
I actually do not think he has a bad word to say about any whisky does he, maybe only one or two?

  Edited on 08-04-2016 at 14:39 pm
karloff
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 08-04-2016 at 15:06 pm
lincolnimp wrote:
karloff wrote:

In-between jobs today,I popped into a local charity shop and found a hard back cover of The Original Malt Whisky Almanac A Tasters Guide 7th edition by Wallace Milroy for 50p. Didn't know much about this book or it's author,so I googled it and it took me straight to Amazon where there are 24 offers of this book for 1p ha ha....I've been ripped off happy . Anyway,I've never heard this bloke mentioned on this site along with the usual suspects. Does anyone rate him and is he highly thought of in the whisky world?


Yes he is quite highly rated I believe as a whisky writer and a former whisky shop owner, I also have that small book I think my copy is from 1987. (he is possibly holding up a bottle of Glenfarclas if I remember rightly)
The thing what I like about that book is that he refers to the standard offerings available at the time because back then single malts were not on everyone`s radar.
He speaks about 8, 10 and 12 year bottlings in the main.
I actually do not think he has a bad word to say about any whisky does he, maybe only one or two?



You are right,he doesn't,I think he has this, there is no such thing as a bad whisky,just some are better than others attitude. His tasting notes and comments are simple,but to the point, reminds me of the way Michael Jackson did his,would you say that was a fair comment? If you think about it, if Milroy and Jackson were members of WB, their tasting notes would be ridiculed for being to simple. Is this a fair comment or have times moved on and the complex fairy stories are what people want to hear now?

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Tom Waits
lincolnimp
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 08-04-2016 at 15:15 pm
karloff wrote:
lincolnimp wrote:
karloff wrote:

In-between jobs today,I popped into a local charity shop and found a hard back cover of The Original Malt Whisky Almanac A Tasters Guide 7th edition by Wallace Milroy for 50p. Didn't know much about this book or it's author,so I googled it and it took me straight to Amazon where there are 24 offers of this book for 1p ha ha....I've been ripped off happy . Anyway,I've never heard this bloke mentioned on this site along with the usual suspects. Does anyone rate him and is he highly thought of in the whisky world?


Yes he is quite highly rated I believe as a whisky writer and a former whisky shop owner, I also have that small book I think my copy is from 1987. (he is possibly holding up a bottle of Glenfarclas if I remember rightly)
The thing what I like about that book is that he refers to the standard offerings available at the time because back then single malts were not on everyone`s radar.
He speaks about 8, 10 and 12 year bottlings in the main.
I actually do not think he has a bad word to say about any whisky does he, maybe only one or two?



You are right,he doesn't,I think he has this, there is no such thing as a bad whisky,just some are better than others attitude. His tasting notes and comments are simple,but to the point, reminds me of the way Michael Jackson did his,would you say that was a fair comment? If you think about it, if Milroy and Jackson were members of WB, their tasting notes would be ridiculed for being to simple. Is this a fair comment or have times moved on and the complex fairy stories are what people want to hear now?


Yeah they are similar, what I call concise with no bullshit.  People unfortunately have no choice now regarding some of the outlandish tasting notes they have to read by bottlers.
I have said it before that bottlers/distillers do not worry what the likes of people on forums like this think because we are in the minority. What they want to do is woo new drinkers with sexed up descriptions about their product, unfortunately some people actually believe them.
thanasist
Expert Senior Senior Expert
Posted on 08-04-2016 at 21:31 pm
lincolnimp wrote:
thanasist wrote:

So you think that the old site might be not operational and the correct price for these bottles is the 250 pounds instead of the 150 mentioned by cfosterk?
Shipping only to UK though so i guess you living there are a bit lucky . Might have higher prices in some bottles but it is impossible that you miss one if you want it.
SO 150 pounds at release, 250 now and 350+ in the stores happyYes


Yes pretty much, but the site may be still working it might even take orders (if you want to risk your money) but they would just cancel them as the official price for the Inverleven on the new site is £275 and all stock will have been updated I assume.

I had exactly the same thing with a British site that were advertising the G&M Rare Old Series, the Brora and Glenlochy (In Maroon boxes) were shown as the original selling price at issue. I paid for them only to be told a week later that the site was old and the prices had been updated on a new site and they sent me a link.
I obviously complained and said they should supply them but they refused and pointed me to the agreement pages saying they had a right to cancel the order at any time, I got my money back no problem.
The old saying `if it sounds to good to be true` then it normally is.


it's not always like this. Yesterday i went on a shop with tobacco to collect my order i had made online . There where some gifts along with the tobacco on their Internet site when i ordered but when i went there he told me that it was their mistake that they hadn't informed their site and despite their loss in the current deal they would give what i paid for.
I said that it was not necessary and offered not to accept the gifts but he insisted telling me that it was a deal and he felt he should honor it and thats how is business, sometime you lose when you forget to update your site for instance. Of course after that he updated his site and didn't let it as the one you mentioned in existence, probably just to attract customers who see the reduced prices
And i think that despite their agreement pages, some of the stuff in there are not legal , they are in contrast with European law for consumers but that would mean that you have the time and will  to pursue them or just to send a note in some European consumer organization.
At some time all , in every country should learn how to do business and not hide behind agreement rules written in the way it suits them nor in the fact that someone would find it difficult to pursue them .

  Edited on 08-04-2016 at 21:45 pm
mrgood
Expert Junior Junior Expert
Posted on 11-05-2016 at 00:22 am
Charles MacLean - Whisky Tales (formerly Whisky Miscellany)
Some of the information can be found in other books, but this one has such a light-hearted feel it makes for quite a nice little read, and it has a lot of quirky little side-bars, old drawings/images, etc ...and the cover is excellent
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karloff
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 11-05-2016 at 20:00 pm
mrgood wrote:
Charles MacLean - Whisky Tales (formerly Whisky Miscellany)
Some of the information can be found in other books, but this one has such a light-hearted feel it makes for quite a nice little read, and it has a lot of quirky little side-bars, old drawings/images, etc ...and the cover is excellent
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This looks right up my street,I have loads on the making of and on bottles and brands,really interested in the history,love Scotch Missed at the moment.

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Tom Waits
Onislay
Member Senior Senior Member
Posted on 20-05-2016 at 22:42 pm

For the dutchies here i could say that the book of hans offringa " wat je als whisky liefhebber moet weten" is something to read/ have. Gives you 350 things about whisky to known of and guides you through the production proces, the different producing countries and some of the big names in the industry

karloff
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 28-09-2016 at 23:31 pm

I received a book in the post today from America,it's called The book of classic American Whiskeys by Mark H Waymack and James F Harris, it's second hand and I paid 21p plus postage. It was published in 1995. It covers all areas, history, distilleries and whiskey with tasting notes. Looks like a good read and it will expand the knowledge.

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Tom Waits
karloff
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 06-11-2016 at 19:35 pm

Me and the wife spent the day in Harrogate today and I was looking round a book shop and picked up the Whiskyopus by Gavin D. Smith and Dominic Roskrow. It was half price £10. Picked up lots of bargains today for the kids at Christmas, driving home very satisfied at the money we've saved and my wife opened a bag of chocolate covered toffees, give me one of those I said, BIG MISTAKE, my front tooth come out, BASTARD. I now look like Shane McGowan. This is going to cost me £200+ to put right. One minute you are up and next you are down sad

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Tom Waits
karloff
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 23-12-2016 at 18:33 pm

https://scotchwhisky.com/magazine/whisky-heroes/12119/aeneas-macdonald/?utm_source=mailjet&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sw-digest-21-12-2016

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Tom Waits
karloff
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 22-03-2017 at 14:37 pm

I was given an unwanted whisky book off a friend of a friend, it's called The World Guide to Whisky by Michael Jackson published in 1990, it looks like an interesting read. In the middle of the pages there is a Glenfiddich Clan map of Scotland, really nice.

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Tom Waits
peatbogger
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 22-03-2017 at 15:59 pm
karloff wrote:

I was given an unwanted whisky book off a friend of a friend, it's called The World Guide to Whisky by Michael Jackson published in 1990, it looks like an interesting read. In the middle of the pages there is a Glenfiddich Clan map of Scotland, really nice.

Any old book by Jackson is a good read happy

I found this at a Swedish market:
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Looks like the original is from 2001, this is in Swedish and printed 2004.
A very informative book on whisky trail essentials, much more than just the distilleries.

Oldpultnie
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 06-04-2017 at 21:28 pm
karloff wrote:

I was given an unwanted whisky book off a friend of a friend, it's called The World Guide to Whisky by Michael Jackson published in 1990, it looks like an interesting read. In the middle of the pages there is a Glenfiddich Clan map of Scotland, really nice.

I'm glad the name Michael Jackson came up at the end. It was the first whisky book I found in the library more than 30 years ago. It was a shock to find out there was more than Black & White, Old Smuggler, Queen Ann, Haig etc. Johnnie Walker red, black and Chival Regal were the more special ones in them days. Glenfidich was the first and only malt whisky available and most spread in Belgium. (Sorry if I missed something). It was Michael Jackson's book that started me up to look around for something else. For years I had a whisky list in my pocket but in pre - internet times it was very difficult and the list became a nice thing to remember how it all started and especialy what I missed.

Meanwhile I got the 1987 book and it's still the number one of my collection. Scotch missed is on the second place and "The Whisky Distilleries" by Alfred Barnard (nowhere mentioned before) is a good third to read more about any distillery's history.

karloff
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 10-09-2017 at 17:27 pm

I was in Oxfam shop today in Durham City and picked up The Single Malt whisky companion a connoisseur's guide by Helen Arthur from 2004. It is well set out and illustrated but I have never heard of the lady who wrote it. 


I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Tom Waits
lincolnimp
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 10-09-2017 at 22:33 pm
karloff wrote:

I was in Oxfam shop today in Durham City and picked up The Single Malt whisky companion a connoisseur's guide by Helen Arthur from 2004. It is well set out and illustrated but I have never heard of the lady who wrote it. 



I believe she has also leant her name to some single cask whisky offerings, I do know she is well respected in the whisky industry, sadly she passed away in 2015


karloff
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 10-09-2017 at 23:02 pm
karloff wrote:

I was in Oxfam shop today in Durham City and picked up The Single Malt whisky companion a connoisseur's guide by Helen Arthur from 2004. It is well set out and illustrated but I have never heard of the lady who wrote it. 



I believe she has also leant her name to some single cask whisky offerings, I do know she is well respected in the whisky industry, sadly she passed away in 2015



Thanks for the information linc. What a shame. 


I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Tom Waits
peatbogger
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 11-09-2017 at 00:24 am
karloff wrote:

I was in Oxfam shop today in Durham City and picked up The Single Malt whisky companion a connoisseur's guide by Helen Arthur from 2004. It is well set out and illustrated but I have never heard of the lady who wrote it. 



Got the same book, probably 1st edition as it sais 1997.

Unlike Jackson's companion I don't think this has been updated between editions, just reprinted (it's 256 pages).

Very nicely illustrated, tidy and informative despite the small format.


Edit: here's an interview with her.

http://misswhisky.com/2015/04/30/helen-arthur-speaks-to-miss-whisky/

  Edited on 11-09-2017 at 00:27 am
karloff
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 11-09-2017 at 00:39 am
karloff wrote:

I was in Oxfam shop today in Durham City and picked up The Single Malt whisky companion a connoisseur's guide by Helen Arthur from 2004. It is well set out and illustrated but I have never heard of the lady who wrote it. 



Got the same book, probably 1st edition as it sais 1997.

Unlike Jackson's companion I don't think this has been updated between editions, just reprinted (it's 256 pages).

Very nicely illustrated, tidy and informative despite the small format.


Edit: here's an interview with her.

http://misswhisky.com/2015/04/30/helen-arthur-speaks-to-miss-whisky/


Thanks Peat and for the Link an interesting read and woman. This is what I love about this site, you buy a book and you don't know much about it or it's author, now I do, thanks lads. wink 


I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Tom Waits
karloff
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 25-11-2017 at 18:38 pm

I was in Alnwick today with the wife and dog. I picked up a couple of books. One was in a second hand book shop it's called The Scotch Whisky Book by Mark Skipworth , a hardback published in 1987 but this is a reprint from 1992. An interesting old book and I got it for  £1.50. The next book I bought was in Barter Books it's a large book called A Compilation of Scotch Malt Whisky Miniature Bottles by Jacky Drake from 2007 it has over 3500 colour photographs of miniature bottles and a general price guide. A must have for a collector of miniatures like myself. It is in very good condition, it's signed by the author and I paid  £18 for it. 

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Tom Waits
lincolnimp
Connoisseur Connoisseur
Posted on 25-11-2017 at 19:48 pm

I recently purchased a 1st edition The House of Haig by James Laver  CBE,1958 which has a signed separate write up paper by the chairman of John Haig dated February 1959 .

A real snapshot in time publication, book in 1st class condition, looking forward to reading it.

karloff
Specialist Specialist
Posted on 26-11-2017 at 01:16 am

When I was in America is bought a book called The Bourbon Tasting Notebook by Susan Reigler and Michael Veach. On each page there is a bottle and there are tasting notes by each author and at the bottom you can fill in your own tasting notes and scores. A very good book. 

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. Tom Waits
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