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Eigashima cask numbers

Nihon
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Posted on 25-02-2017 at 15:14 pm
I'm in need of some education here, if anyone can help, on cask numbers.
In 2014, Eigashima released a 4-year old Akashi White Oak whisky, aged in white wine cask, cask # 61091, 54%(https://www.whiskybase.com/whisky/54655/white-oak-2010).
Two or three years later, in 2017, Eigashima has now done an Exclusive 5-year old bottling for Shinanoya (http://shinanoya-tokyo.jp/shop/shopdetail.html?brandcode=000000007457&search=akashi&sort=) which is also Akashi White Oak whisky, aged in white wine cask, cask # 61091, 59%.
The two are both distillery releases and have same: distillery brand, cask type and cask number. But: the one released 2-3 years later is only one year older, and has an even higher alc. I cannot read Japanese so I guess I am missing something here?  

Niels V
Member Senior Senior Member
Posted on 22-09-2019 at 22:11 pm

Higher alcohol can be due to humidity where where water evaporates before alcohol OR the 2014 edition was diluted..

Could have been the same cash, as it could have been a huge wine cask.

Shinanoya's release may have been bottled at 1.8-1.11 years later but released a few months later than that due to release conflicts or label errors.

Aside from that, it could also just be a printing error on one of the labels happy

Ik ben GEEN whisky expert. Dank u.
Slàinte Mhath
Administrator Administrator
Posted on 30-09-2019 at 10:02 am

Nihon wrote:

I'm in need of some education here, if anyone can help, on cask numbers.

In 2014, Eigashima released a 4-year old Akashi White Oak whisky, aged in white wine cask, cask # 61091, 54%(https://www.whiskybase.com/whisky/54655/white-oak-2010).

Two or three years later, in 2017, Eigashima has now done an Exclusive 5-year old bottling for Shinanoya (http://shinanoya-tokyo.jp/shop/shopdetail.html?brandcode=000000007457&search=akashi&sort=) which is also Akashi White Oak whisky, aged in white wine cask, cask # 61091, 59%.

The two are both distillery releases and have same: distillery brand, cask type and cask number. But: the one released 2-3 years later is only one year older, and has an even higher alc. I cannot read Japanese so I guess I am missing something here?  


Here is the official feedback from Yuki Urabe, Eigashima Shuzo:

First, for both of the products, we used white wine cask #61091 to finish. We didn’t mature whole years in white wine cask.

For the former product, we distilled in 2010, then matured in other cask for 3 years, and then moved the whisky to wine cask #61091, and matured for 1 more year.

On the other hand, for the latter product for Shinanoya, we distilled in 2011, matured in other cask for 3 years, and then moved the whisky to wine cask #61091 right after we opened to bottle for the former product and emptied the #61091 cask, and matured for 2 more years.

To tell you more, we have always used white wine casks to finish.

We have never matured in white wine casks from start to finish.

  Edited on 30-09-2019 at 10:05 am
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Nihon
Member Senior Senior Member
Posted on 01-10-2019 at 22:11 pm

Thank you much for following up and getting an official response to this. I must say I am amazed WB Admin would do this. Slainte  Mhath to you!

And now to the response itself. Mmmm....

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